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MR POTTINGER: I was thinking -- just looking it up before that was fine but
                 actually, thinking again, we’re not ready because we just need to check this point of
                 law.
           A
                 THE RECORDER: Yes, you need to clarify that. My knee-jerk reaction is that it will
                 be on the Crown to prove that ---------

                 MR POTTINGER: That’s my knee-jerk reaction as well.


           B     THE RECORDER: -—but I -------

                 MR POTTINGER: But I just think we should clarify it.

                 THE RECORDER: I agree entirely. Mr Kennedy, any views?


           C     MR KENNEDY: I agree with everything that’s been said.

                 THE RECORDER: Okay.

                 MR KENNEDY: It’s a single-issue case.
           D

                 THE RECORDER: Yes.

                 MR KENNEDY: Whether he was using that vehicle for working that day.

                 THE RECORDER: Right.
           E
                 MR KENNEDY: That’s the issue.
                 THE RECORDER: Can you help me with this? Whose -- whose policy is it? Is it a
                 work policy? Is it a domestic policy? What are we talking -----------

                 MR KENNEDY: It’s his -- it’s his policy.

           F
                 THE RECORDER: It’s his policy. And has he got a copy of it?

                 MR KENNEDY: Yes. We’ve got a copy available.


           GTHE RECORDER: Could — could — could we see a copy of it ---
                 MR KENNEDY: Sure.

                 THE RECORDER:  ----- whilst this is going on so that we can at least have a look

                 at what’s -- what’s happening.
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