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course over the process of saying “Can I see your insurance certificate?” and so on, yes,
it’s become clear that I’m digging into his insurance.
Q Can you actually recall seeing anything in the vehicle apart from loose items and
debris?
A No. Loose items --------
Q And the cards?
A ----- the business cards and debris, yes.
MR POTTINGER: I’ve got no further questions. Does your Honour have any questions?
THE RECORDER: Yes. Was it a solid van or an open transit?
A My apologies, your Honour. Can you repeat ---------
Q Was it a solid van or was it an open-backed ----------
A It was a closed -------
Q Closed.
A ----- panel van.
Q Did you look in it?
A No, not initially, no. I don’t believe I did.
Q Did you see any ladders?
A No, I don’t recall any ladders.
Q Paint pots?
A No, I don’t recall any paint pots.
Q Tools?
A I don’t recall any tools.
Q Thank you. You rang the insurers having been given the certificate of motor
insurance? Is that right?
A Yes, that’s correct.
Q Where did you get the phone number from?
A (No audible reply)
Q I can’t see it on this certificate. Perhaps it’s just my eyesight but .............
A I don’t recall where I got the number from.
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