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THE RECORDER: Application for costs granted.

MR KENNEDY: Thank you.
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THE RECORDER: I would like to see the officer’s notebooks, please, Mr
Pottinger, and I’d like them handed to the clerk, the original ones, so that I can
view them and they will be returned in due course.

MR POTTINGER: What — what he gave me was — was in fact the same
B statement you have.

THE RECORDER: Right. He said - he referred to some — there was - as though there
was a date-stamp on the back of something.

MR POTTINGER: There’s a — that’s the .....
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THE RECORDER: Can I see that now? That’ll be fine.

MR POTTINGER: Yes, certainly.

THE RECORDER: Thank you very much.
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MR POTTINGER: I just mention matters outside — I think there was a -- the fixed
penalty notice, the original fixed penalty notice, isn’t in the file and I’m afraid that is
what happens these days. In the old days --------

THE RECORDER: Yes.
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MR POTTINGER: -----the original file would come through on appeal. The way

the system works now, you don’t get the-----

THE RECORDER: No, no. I — I understand. I understand.
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MR POTTINGER: And I can only ......

THE RECORDER: No, no. It’s not your fault at all.

MR POTTINGER: It may be on the back of that, the original handwritten ........
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THE RECORDER: One of the problems with non-paper cases is that very often it’s
the paper that shows where things have gone wrong and ---------

MR POTTINGER: Yes. No, I........
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