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                 A                 course over the process of saying “Can I see your
                                   insurance certificate?” and so on, yes, it’s become
                                   clear that I’m digging into his insurance.

                 Q                 Can you actually recall seeing anything in the vehicle
                                   apart from loose items and debris?
                 A                 No. Loose items
                 Q                 And the cards?
                 A.                the business cards and debris, yes.
                 MR                I’ve got no further questions. Does your Honour have
                 POTTINGER:   any questions?
                 THE               Yes. Was it a solid van or an open transit?
                 RECORDER:
                 A.                My apologies, your Honour. Can you repeat
                 Q                 Was it a solid van or was it an open-backed
                 A.                It was a closed
                 Q.                Closed.
                 A                 panel vans.
                 Q.                Did you look in it?
                 A.                No, not initially, no. I don’t believe I did.
                 Q                 Did you see any ladders?
                 A                 No, I don’t recall any ladders.
                 Q                 Paint pots?
                 A                 No, I don’t recall any paint pots.
                 Q                 Tools?
                 A                 I don’t recall any tools.
                 Q                 Thank you. You rang the insurers having been given
                                   the certificate of motor insurance? Is that right?
                 A                 Yes, that’s correct.
                 Q                 Where did you get the phone number from?
                 A                 (No audible reply)
                 Q                 I can’t see it on this certificate. Perhaps it’s just my
                                   eyesight but
                 A                 I don’t recall where I got the number from.
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                 Q                 Right. I think somebody knows but we can deal with
                                   that later on. You don’t recall anyway?

                 A                 No.
                 Q                 Thank you. Anything else? No. Thank you, officer.
                                   That’s all. I would like you to remain at court, please,
                                   and I would like you to produce all the notes that
                                   you’ve relied upon this morning and hand them to Mr
                                   Pottinger. Thank you.
                 A                 Yes, your Honour. Thank you.
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