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Q             When you seize a van, you produce a seizure notice?
                               Is that right?

                 A             Yes, that’s correct.
                 Q             That would note --1 haven’t got it to hand. Have you got
                               that?
                 A             I don’t have it here at the stand with me, no.
                 Q             No. But in general terms a seizure notice would note what
                               the vehicle — who — who the vehicle’s been seized from?
                               Yes?
                 A             Yes.
                 Q             What the vehicle is?
                 A             Yes.
                 Q             Contents of the vehicle?
                 A             Yes.
                 Q             And so if there were tools in the vehicle then they would
                               be noted, wouldn’t they?
                 A             I believe that the particular interest is around the value so if
                               it’s something of value then it’s recorded. So, if tools are
                               of a value to the individual then, yes, they are, they will be
                               recorded, yes.
                 Q             Well, I mean, let’s use your — let’s use your phrase, “a
                               load of tools”. If you seize someone you believe to be a
                               workman’s vehicle and it’s got a load of tools in it, i.e.
                               their livelihood, part of their livelihood, a seizure notice
                               would be obliged to cover the fact that a load of tools had
                               been seized, wouldn’t it?
                 A.            Again I -- again I would come back to — to what extent
                               they’re of value. Certainly, if it was sort of large
                               machinery then, yes. If it’s maybe a couple of screwdrivers
                               on the dashboard then I can see why that might get
                               overlooked. But, yes, in general you do record what’s -- in
                               the vehicle, yes.
                 Q             Tools of the trade from a trade — you can’t just go about
                               taking a tradesman’s van with a load of tools in it without
                               giving them a receipt telling them what you’ve told -
                               showing them what you’re taking (Inaudible)?
                 A             Correct.
                 Q             I don’t know if you — did you draft the seizure notice in
                               this case?
                 A             I do not recall.
                 Q             No. There’s no reference on the seizure notice in this case -
                               - I think it will be agreed in due course. No reference to
                               tools on the seizure notice. Are you able to explain that?
                 Q             No, I’m — I’m not able to explain. I — I don’t recall
                               whether it was myself or another colleague that completed
                               the seizure notice.
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