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Q So we’ve got in terms of your - obviously informing your thinking of why he — why
you thought he was working, you’ve got — it was a -- it was a week day and it was
during working hours? Yes?
A Yes.

Q That’s equally consistent with going to see someone about future work? Would you
agree?
A Yes, it’s — in and of itself it’s not enough, no.

Q You make the point about his what you say were working clothes covered in paint and
dirt?
A Yes.

Q I suggest to you you’re wrong about that and in fact he had on maybe scruffy jeans but
he wasn’t in workmen’s clothing?
A (No audible reply)

Q You’re wrong, aren’t you? He had scruffy jeans on but he didn’t have workmen’s
clothing?
A Well, I — I can’t recall the exact clothing but he looked to me like a builder from the
paint, the — the dirt on his clothes.

Q But we’ve got no description of the clothing really, have we?
A If I just refer to my notes. Yes. In my statement all I — all I say is that they were
dressed in clothing covered with paint and other dirt.

Q Jeans, overalls, colour?
A I don’t recall.

Q This was a point you raised with him by the roadside and he explained to you that these
weren’t his — these weren’t working clothes. Do you recall that?
A No, I don’t recall that, no.

Q The cards that you rely on to -- that informed your thinking. Did you seize any of these
cards?
A Yes, I did seize one of those business cards.

Q Have you got it?
A No. Unfortunately I do not have it with me.
Q Why not?
A I was unable to obtain it from the property store at Kennington police station.

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