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Q Again this was a point that you raised with Mr Cordell by the roadside and he
explained how the card wasn’t for him working as a tradesman, rather that he has a
company which acts as a middleman for tradesmen and that’s why his name was on
the card. Do you remember that?
A No, I do not recall that.

Q So we’ve got the time of the day, you’ve got his clothing, you’ve got the cards.
Anything else?
A And his initial comment of course.

Q Workmen often, tradesmen, will carry tools around in a van, won’t they?
A Yes. Often.

Q Any tools?
A Not that I recall, no.

Q There’s no reference to tools in your statement, is there?
A No.

Q I think you were asked about this at the Magistrates’ Court. There’s no secret. This
matter has been before the Magistrates’ Court. And I think it’s right you gave the
same answer you’ve just given, you don’t recall there being any tools?
A Yes. I don’t recall.

Q You would have noted them?
A I would like to think so.

Q If you’re noting factors which suggest that he is working as a tradesman that day,
there’s no way you’d have left that out, is there?
A Well, never say never, I suppose. Obviously Mr Cordell was unco-operative, you
know, throughout this sort of encounter from the moment he realised I was going to
be looking — dealing with the offence that I had before me. But, no, I don’t recall any
tools.

Q Okay. I’ve got a -- you spoke to the insurance company when you were by the
roadside, didn’t you?
A Yes, I did.

MR KENNEDY: I’ve got the — what I suggest is the tape of -- CD recording of this
call. I just want to play an excerpt of it.

THE RECORDER: Well, is this the call that the officer makes?

MR KENNEDY: Yes.

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