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A Yes. I don’t recall.
Q You would have noted them?
A I would like to think so.
Q If you’re noting factors which suggest that he is
working as a tradesman that day, there’s no way you’d
have left that out, is there?
A Well, never say never, I suppose. Obviously, Mr
Cordell was un-co-operative, you know, throughout
this sort of encounter from the moment he realised I
was going to be looking — dealing with the offence
that I had before me. But, no, I don’t recall any tools.
Q Okay. I’ve got a -- you spoke to the insurance company
when you were by the roadside, didn’t you?
A Yes, I did.
MR I’ve got the — what I suggest is the tape of -- CD
KENNEDY: recording of this call. I just want to play an excerpt of
it.
THE Well, is this the call that the officer makes?
RECORDER:
MR Yes.
KENNEDY:
20
236,

THE Thank you.
RECORDER:
MR
KENNEDY:
A (An excerpt from the recording of the telephone call
was played)

Q That’s -- you, yes?

A Yes, it certainly sounds like me.

(The recording continued)

Q You said to the insurance company there “Looking at
the van, it’s got a load of tools in”?
A Yes, yes. That does sound like that’s what I said, yes.
Q And when you said that to the insurance company, you
were lying, weren’t you?
A I don’t recall lying. I’m faced with two -- obviously
I’ve got my recollection and my notes and then I’ve
obviously got that recording.
Q We went through that your notes were comprehensive.
Yes?
Didn’t we? Officer?
A Yes, you asked me, yes.