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know nothing. I was trying to get a job here. You don’t
                                   understand, man.” That in a nutshell is his position.
                 THE               Thank you.
                 RECORDER:
                 MR                That he was going to see somebody
                 KENNEDY:
                 THE               Right.
                 RECORDER:
                 MR                about obtaining future work. My
                 KENNEDY: —
                 THE               I’ve got it. Mr Pottinger, is that accepted? So that in
                 RECORDER:         other words what -- we’re asking the Crown is do you
                                   accept that if in fact he was only going to look for
                                   work, as he asserts, that he was covered?
                 MR                (After a long pause) I just (Inaudible). Not necessarily.
                 POTTINGER:   I’m just thinking whether -- that — because obviously
                                   it’s social, domestic, pleasure and motor trade
                                   purposes. If -- a man is driving round in rounds touting
                                   for work with a van and cards for work
                 THE               Well, this is what concerned me.
                 RECORDER:
                 MR                And there are cards in the van. I am concerned. I’m not
                 POTTINGER:   sure that necessarily is
                 THE               I have my cards in the car. It doesn’t mean I’m driving
                 RECORDER:         round touting for work.
                 MR                Can I -- can I expand then. Not touting around looking
                 KENNEDY:          for tradesman work or — or the like but was going to
                                   see somebody at a building that was going to be turned
                                   into a club, looking for a management role in the club.
                 THE               Yes.
                 RECORDER:
                 MR                That’s what we would say clearly. So, it’s not — it’s
                 KENNEDY:          not driving around looking for handiwork. The
                                   Crown’s evidence seems — they’re — they’re
                                   obviously not constrained by what’s simply in the one
                                   witness statement but it does seem geared very much
                                   towards saying that he is a tradesman going about his
                                   daily work.
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                 THE               Does the Crown know what its case is?
                 RECORDER:
                 MR                Well
                 POTTINGER:
                 THE               I — I — I — I’m really concerned about this because
                 RECORDER:         I’m concerned just taking it off one piece of paper, the
                                   certificate.
                 MR                Yes.
                 POTTINGER:
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