Page 141 - 5. 2015 New 26-05-21 No Table
P. 141
He had scruffy jeans on but he didn’t have workmen’s
clothing?
A Well, I — I can’t recall the exact clothing but he looked to
me like a builder from the paint, the — the dirt on his
clothes.
Q But we’ve got no description of the clothing really, have
we?
A If I just refer to my notes. Yes. In my statement all I — all
I say is that they were dressed in clothing covered with
paint and other dirt.
Q Jeans, overalls, colour?
A I don’t recall.
Q This was a point you raised with him by the roadside and
he explained to you that these weren’t his — these weren’t
working clothes. Do you recall that?
A No, I don’t recall that, no.
Q The cards that you rely on to -- that informed your
thinking. Did you seize any of these cards?
A Yes, I did seize one of those business cards.
Q Have you got it?
A No. Unfortunately, I do not have it with me.
Q Why not?
A I was unable to obtain it from the property store at
Kennington police station.
19
235,
Q Again this was a point that you raised with Mr Cordell
by the roadside and he explained how the card wasn’t
for him working as a tradesman, rather that he has a
company which acts as a middleman for tradesmen and
that’s why his name was on the card. Do you remember
that?
A No, I do not recall that.
Q So we’ve got the time of the day, you’ve got his
clothing, you’ve got the cards. Anything else?
A And his initial comment of course.
Q Workmen often, tradesmen, will carry tools around in a
van, won’t they?
A Yes. Often.
Q Any tools?
A Not that I recall, no.
Q There’s no reference to tools in your statement, is
there?
A No.
Q I think you were asked about this at the Magistrates’
Court. There’s no secret. This matter has been before
the Magistrates’ Court. And I think it’s right you gave
the same answer you’ve just given; you don’t recall
there being any tools?