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Q Forget your notes for a moment. Let’s concentrate on this
phrase, this agreed phrase - “Nah, you don’t know nothing.
I was trying to get a job here.
You don’t understand, man.”
Okay?
Before he said that, isn’t it the position that he was
explaining “I was trying to get a job here”?
A I don’t recall that. My — my recollection is that he was
there to try and get some work.
Q All right — sorry?
A He was there to try and get some work. So, whether it — I
don’t know whether you’re asking me about a job or work.
It’s
Q That was — that was what he said?
“I’m there to try and get some work”?
A Yes.
Q Now we know he said that after arrest. Yes?
You’ve noted that.
A I don’t believe it was after arrest.
Q Sorry. After caution.
A Yes, after caution.
Q Yes. He’d said that earlier before that, hadn’t he?
A Sorry, can I ask you just to go over that again?
Q Yes. Right. You’ve said how you cautioned him. And you
reasonably suspected Mr Cordell was driving the vehicle
for business purposes. You pointed out the offence of no
insurance and then you cautioned him to which the
response
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Q was “Nah, you don’t know nothing. I was trying to get a
job here. You don’t understand, man.”
Okay?
A Yes, that’s correct.
Q So, after the caution he said to you that you weren’t
understanding him and that he was trying to get a job? B A
Yes, that’s correct.
Q Okay. Now what I’m suggesting to you is before the
caution there was a conversation in which he was trying to
get you to understand that he was looking — he had an
appointment to see someone about future work.
C I don’t recall that, unfortunately.

A the ~ it might just be a turn of phrase but you said that he
was wearing working clothes in paint — covered in paint
and dirt. That caused you to suspect he was working?
Yes?
Q Yes.